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shadowkatBeen writing funky long-winded posts lately, this is not one of them. Off soon, to meet Wales for brunch or lunch. It's pretty outside. The sky crystal blue, with a glowing sun. And 40 degrees. Nice crisp Feburary morning.
Picked up the last issue of Angel: After the Fall - this week. Issue 17. Don't really see much here to analyze. The Spike/Angel interaction was by far the best part of the issue, and in some respects it reminded me of the series - or rather what I liked about the series.
I do not see myself reading Kelley Armstrong's arc, mostly because I'm not a fan of Armstrong and she's focusing mostly on Angel and Connor, and not really anyone else. Spike won't appear.
Brian Lynch is doing the Spike series, and Angel will make appearances in Lynch's comics. Lynch also is getting input here and there from Whedon, while Armstrong hasn't been in touch with Whedon at all. Armstrong's arc feels a lot like some of the fanfic I've read and I really don't see why I should pay for something that I can get for free. Seems a bit silly to me. But I may try one to two issues. Lynch's, granted, is possibly also fanfic, but I like Urru and I like Lynch's take on Spike. Plus, as you all know, Spike fan - in that I read close to anything with Spike in it.
The other points worth mentioning about After the Fall, issue 17 are:
1. One can't help but wonder if Harmony's Reality Bites, and the sudden sympathy for Vampires was not a direct result of LA's sojourn in hell caused by Angel's relationship with WRH. And if WRH got the last laugh by allowing everyone to remember it.
2. Angel and Spike appear to have come to a sort of mutual appreciation. Spike tells Angel that maybe his destiney isn't pre-ordained, if it were why would WRH have gone to all that trouble? Maybe no one's destiney is? And Angel tells Spike that the nice thing about not being in visions or history books - is no one see you coming, you are always the surprise.
Spike has definitely played that role in the comics and series - a sort of wild card, who changes the hand in which he has been dealt.
3. According to an interview - Lynch sees Spike as hunting for his place in the world and wanting to be in love and being loved. (This actually fits with some of Whedon's writing on the character, although I think he's more complicated than that or the actor and other writers portrayed him as far more complicated than that. Nice thing about tv shows, you get more angles.) Lynch sees Angel as trying to find a way to save people, to help, and to be a better man after his series. (Again, I think the character is more complicated than that.)
Most interesting thing that came out of the comics was point one. Oh and for Connor fans, there is a bit about Connor as well. Also I think Armstrong plans on using Connor in Aftermath.
Watched a few tv shows - not time to analyze or go into depth:
1. Heroes - this show really has jumped the shark, hasn't it? I read what my flist thought about it before I watched the most recent episodes and...they are absolutely right. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to stick with it or not. I'm finding the treatment of women in the current arc to be a bit...difficult to watch. It's not misogynistic. It's patronistic and chauvinistic. And very Fruedian. At any rate, from what I've seen of the ratings? I think Heroes is dead in the water. If it doesn't pick up more viewers soon - ABC may ax it's sorry butt. And at this point? I'm thinking good riddance. Bring back Pushing Daisies instead.
2. Lost - Loving this show. It's actually gotten better. The characters are quite twisty as is the storyline. If you are having troubles understanding the whole time travel bit - just think of it in these terms - the island is a record, the plane crash survivors are a song on that record - anyone who leaves the island are lyrics from a song that have leaped off the record, the needle is the wheel at the orchid which plays the songs. The show reminds me a lot of an old sci-fi series I watched in the 70's/80's with Roddy McDowell and Ike Eisenmen, which I can't remember the name of - and took place in the Bermuda triangle. Except it's a lot better than that series and makes more sense. Also I like the characters better, not to mention the acting. Yes, I like all the characters on Lost including the much maligned Kate and Jack, who online fans appear to despise.
3. BSG - Also amazing this year - Friday's episode rocked. It brought the whole thing together and into focus. IT also raised some interesting philosophical questions regarding God, religion, purpose and meaning. Not to mention justice and revenge. The discussion between John Cable and Ellen Tigh continues to haunt me.
4. Dollhouse - I hope people give this series a chance. Whedon's never been great at pilots. I thought the Buffy and Angel pilots were on the cheesy/campy side of the fence. It's rare that series pilots are very good. And often the ones that are good, don't lead to great series. It's hard to do a good pilot. You have about million different people telling you how to change it and that you have to please. I really recommend people rent The TV SET - which sort of tells you the story of doing a tv pilot from beginning to end. As does the commentary afterwards.
The way I watch tv - is I usually give a show about five episodes before I give up on it.
If you are intrigued at all by Dollhouse or find Whedon an interesting writer - I suggest giving the show five episodes.
That said, I actually liked the pilot. Dusku wasn't amazing, but she wasn't bad either. I've always sort of liked the actress. The supporting cast was excellent. And there was a lot going on.
5. Sarah Connor Chronicles - very disappointed that Kyle Reese was just a vision. I wanted more. But it was an interesting examination of the two mothers - Sarah and Weaver, it was also an interesting examination of the two John's and the consequences of their leadership.
Picked up the last issue of Angel: After the Fall - this week. Issue 17. Don't really see much here to analyze. The Spike/Angel interaction was by far the best part of the issue, and in some respects it reminded me of the series - or rather what I liked about the series.
I do not see myself reading Kelley Armstrong's arc, mostly because I'm not a fan of Armstrong and she's focusing mostly on Angel and Connor, and not really anyone else. Spike won't appear.
Brian Lynch is doing the Spike series, and Angel will make appearances in Lynch's comics. Lynch also is getting input here and there from Whedon, while Armstrong hasn't been in touch with Whedon at all. Armstrong's arc feels a lot like some of the fanfic I've read and I really don't see why I should pay for something that I can get for free. Seems a bit silly to me. But I may try one to two issues. Lynch's, granted, is possibly also fanfic, but I like Urru and I like Lynch's take on Spike. Plus, as you all know, Spike fan - in that I read close to anything with Spike in it.
The other points worth mentioning about After the Fall, issue 17 are:
1. One can't help but wonder if Harmony's Reality Bites, and the sudden sympathy for Vampires was not a direct result of LA's sojourn in hell caused by Angel's relationship with WRH. And if WRH got the last laugh by allowing everyone to remember it.
2. Angel and Spike appear to have come to a sort of mutual appreciation. Spike tells Angel that maybe his destiney isn't pre-ordained, if it were why would WRH have gone to all that trouble? Maybe no one's destiney is? And Angel tells Spike that the nice thing about not being in visions or history books - is no one see you coming, you are always the surprise.
Spike has definitely played that role in the comics and series - a sort of wild card, who changes the hand in which he has been dealt.
3. According to an interview - Lynch sees Spike as hunting for his place in the world and wanting to be in love and being loved. (This actually fits with some of Whedon's writing on the character, although I think he's more complicated than that or the actor and other writers portrayed him as far more complicated than that. Nice thing about tv shows, you get more angles.) Lynch sees Angel as trying to find a way to save people, to help, and to be a better man after his series. (Again, I think the character is more complicated than that.)
Most interesting thing that came out of the comics was point one. Oh and for Connor fans, there is a bit about Connor as well. Also I think Armstrong plans on using Connor in Aftermath.
Watched a few tv shows - not time to analyze or go into depth:
1. Heroes - this show really has jumped the shark, hasn't it? I read what my flist thought about it before I watched the most recent episodes and...they are absolutely right. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to stick with it or not. I'm finding the treatment of women in the current arc to be a bit...difficult to watch. It's not misogynistic. It's patronistic and chauvinistic. And very Fruedian. At any rate, from what I've seen of the ratings? I think Heroes is dead in the water. If it doesn't pick up more viewers soon - ABC may ax it's sorry butt. And at this point? I'm thinking good riddance. Bring back Pushing Daisies instead.
2. Lost - Loving this show. It's actually gotten better. The characters are quite twisty as is the storyline. If you are having troubles understanding the whole time travel bit - just think of it in these terms - the island is a record, the plane crash survivors are a song on that record - anyone who leaves the island are lyrics from a song that have leaped off the record, the needle is the wheel at the orchid which plays the songs. The show reminds me a lot of an old sci-fi series I watched in the 70's/80's with Roddy McDowell and Ike Eisenmen, which I can't remember the name of - and took place in the Bermuda triangle. Except it's a lot better than that series and makes more sense. Also I like the characters better, not to mention the acting. Yes, I like all the characters on Lost including the much maligned Kate and Jack, who online fans appear to despise.
3. BSG - Also amazing this year - Friday's episode rocked. It brought the whole thing together and into focus. IT also raised some interesting philosophical questions regarding God, religion, purpose and meaning. Not to mention justice and revenge. The discussion between John Cable and Ellen Tigh continues to haunt me.
4. Dollhouse - I hope people give this series a chance. Whedon's never been great at pilots. I thought the Buffy and Angel pilots were on the cheesy/campy side of the fence. It's rare that series pilots are very good. And often the ones that are good, don't lead to great series. It's hard to do a good pilot. You have about million different people telling you how to change it and that you have to please. I really recommend people rent The TV SET - which sort of tells you the story of doing a tv pilot from beginning to end. As does the commentary afterwards.
The way I watch tv - is I usually give a show about five episodes before I give up on it.
If you are intrigued at all by Dollhouse or find Whedon an interesting writer - I suggest giving the show five episodes.
That said, I actually liked the pilot. Dusku wasn't amazing, but she wasn't bad either. I've always sort of liked the actress. The supporting cast was excellent. And there was a lot going on.
5. Sarah Connor Chronicles - very disappointed that Kyle Reese was just a vision. I wanted more. But it was an interesting examination of the two mothers - Sarah and Weaver, it was also an interesting examination of the two John's and the consequences of their leadership.
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Date: 2009-02-15 11:16 pm (UTC)Evidently the ratings were not very good, but there were some bright spots: it won for men in the desired demographic... AND it is already #10 in the top downloads for TV shows on iTunes. I hope those two facts will make Fox feel that this is a show worth continuing.