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shadowkatWatched Glee but missed the last five to ten minutes, because DVR cut it off, because American Idol went too long. Not to worry, it's pretty clear what happened. I enjoyed it - because it fits at least three of my bullet-proof kinks - musical performances with dancing,
underdogs trying to prove themselves and doing so, wry wit and satirical comedy. My only difficulty with it is...well, my on-going issue with Ryan Murphy and Nip/Tuck - which is that he's, how to put this? Clearly has unresolved issues with women. I'll just leave it at that. Murphy, JJ Abrhams/Damon Lindenoff, Tim Minear, as well Tim Kring of Heroes all appear to fit into this category. What's up with that?
Anywho...with that in mind, I went hunting for a women of Star Trek icon. (This interest was kicked into gear by several posts online about the star trek/sci-fi fandom and women feeling, well sort of marginalized in it. Very true. I always felt excluded and marginalized. One of the things I loved most about Season 6 Buffy was Whedon's satirical take on male sci-fi fanclubs otherwise known as The Trioka - frighteningly on the mark.) Everyone has these Kirk/Spock icons, seen a couple Uhura - the best by far is![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
ishtar's - whose icon I may snag yet. But no women of Trek.
This is what I found:
The one with Galen is from happyme, the other two? No idea. Just found them on Icon sites.
What I want is an icon that shows all the women of star trek in a sort of slide show, but I suck at icon making (ie no clue how) - so if you are good at it and should choose to try it - please share.
underdogs trying to prove themselves and doing so, wry wit and satirical comedy. My only difficulty with it is...well, my on-going issue with Ryan Murphy and Nip/Tuck - which is that he's, how to put this? Clearly has unresolved issues with women. I'll just leave it at that. Murphy, JJ Abrhams/Damon Lindenoff, Tim Minear, as well Tim Kring of Heroes all appear to fit into this category. What's up with that?
Anywho...with that in mind, I went hunting for a women of Star Trek icon. (This interest was kicked into gear by several posts online about the star trek/sci-fi fandom and women feeling, well sort of marginalized in it. Very true. I always felt excluded and marginalized. One of the things I loved most about Season 6 Buffy was Whedon's satirical take on male sci-fi fanclubs otherwise known as The Trioka - frighteningly on the mark.) Everyone has these Kirk/Spock icons, seen a couple Uhura - the best by far is
ishtar's - whose icon I may snag yet. But no women of Trek. This is what I found:
The one with Galen is from happyme, the other two? No idea. Just found them on Icon sites.
What I want is an icon that shows all the women of star trek in a sort of slide show, but I suck at icon making (ie no clue how) - so if you are good at it and should choose to try it - please share.
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Date: 2009-05-22 02:11 am (UTC)But when watching Dollhouse it is hard to be comfortable identifying w/the morally ambiguous characters... instead most of us are identifying with Echo, who we see being used and abused in virtually every episode! No wonder if it is painful, it IS painful!
Now maybe my love of 'Dexter' made me more comfortable with identifying with the most appallingly amoral anti-hero ever... next to him Topher is a choir boy, and Adelle is soft and cuddly. I have to admit that I've even come to care about Dominic and I want him rescued from the 'attic'!
But it isn't just that I'm in love with these people who have sold their souls for... whatever they are each being offered (not just Caroline, but you know Adelle has been bought too), it is also that I start to see people questioning their reactions:
On Whedonesque people were discussing the 'little girl' outfit that Echo was wearing in one episode and I couple of guys admitted they thought the costume was hot, but they aren't pedophiles... so why was it hot? They were questioning their own reactions... THAT is one of the things that Dollhouse does that no other show would dare to do! Would I want a doll to fulfill a fantasy? Does that make me a bad person?
It's complicated.
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Date: 2009-05-22 04:29 pm (UTC)It does help if you like anti-heroes or prickily/deeply flawed characters. A lot of folks, I've discovered, really don't. They want their protagonists/leads to be heroes along the same line as Superman was and Buffy in the first three seasons of that series. When Buffy got more layers, became less the pristine heroine (not that she ever was that pristine) and a bit more gray characterwise - a lot of fans could not deal with the character. Personnally, I found her easier to relate to and more interesting, more, real. Also, the more complicated Spike got, the more I fell in love.
Regarding Dollhouse? My favorite character - the one I love the most is not Echo, but rather Adelle - who is so flawed and twisted. And the actress playing her is amazing. I also love Boyd Langton, Sierra, Victor, and Whiskey/Saunders. Topher is also fascinating. I'm struggling with Echo and Ballard - who feel under-developed to me and less layered for some reason.
That may change as the story progresses.
They were questioning their own reactions... THAT is one of the things that Dollhouse does that no other show would dare to do! Would I want a doll to fulfill a fantasy? Does that make me a bad person?
It's complicated.
Exactly. It's what I like most about Whedon's writing. And the reason I enjoy Lost, and Mad Men - equally dark shows, with equally dark characters - that make us question our world and ourselves. And it's why, I think I'm still in love with Buffy.