The Climb...Game of Thrones Episode 5, S3
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shadowkatOr it might be six. I am not good at counting things. You should see me at physical therapy. Do thirty of these, hold for twenty seconds each. Both sides. I'm using my fingers...and I'm still not sure I got the count right.
As an aside I'm glad I have a few people on my flist who are completely clueless about the books, but I need to find a whole group.
* I don't remember the Melisandra and Thoros conversation in the book. But rather loved it here and so that's what happened to Gendry? I thought he just stayed with the Brotherhood?
I also don't remember Melisandra and Ayra talking in the books. If it's a change - it's a good change. But oh dear, poor Gendry.
R'Hollar...I agree with Bendric, Rholla is not a good god. Feels like the God of War or Mars.
The other side he tells Melisandra is dark not light and this God is not light, but a dark god.
* The scenes with the Lannisters still rock. Adored the conversation with Cersei and Tyrion who commiserating over their father's annoying marital plans, and Tywin and Queen of Thorns.
The Queen tries to twart Tywin, but gives up for now. Tyrion has aptly decided that Sansa got the worst of the bargain. Cersei doesn't disagree. But naively thinks Jamie would and could save her. Tyrion also finds out from Cersei, as do we, that it was Joffrey who ordered the hit on him not her. (She'd have been brighter about it and poisoned him.) I think Cersei's arc works better here...than it did in the books. It's clearer and it also parallels Catelynn's arc quite well, not to mention ironically.
* Little Finger is even worse here than he was in the books. I don't remember that bit with Joffrey and the whores at all. Although it does a great job of showing the audience what a mad sadist Joffrey is. Joffrey and the guy torturing Theon have a lot in common. And RIP dear Roz. You were better off with Tyrion than Little Finger.
Little Finger pretty much admits here what I'd managed to figure out from the last episode - that he manipulated the whole thing to thwart Varys plan to marry Sansa off to Highgarden.
Actually what happens is a result of Varys and Littlefingers chess match with each other.
Little Finger's snitch is more adept than Varys...who managed to get caught. Poor Roz - she did not deserve that.
* Oh dear...Rob Stark bargains with the Freys...and agrees to marry Edmure off to one of Frey's daughters in exchange for an alliance. For the good of the kingdom, he tells Edmure, for the good of the family, for the win. It's a rather dark scene, filled with foreboding.
* The guy torturing Theon...and seriously, why do we have to have this too in S3? I guess it's better to do it now than in flashback. But in the books it was actually less grueling, they referred to it, we didn't actually have to live through it. And the guy torturing Theon is a true sadist. Although I think Joffrey could give him a run for his money. Shame they can't meet - they'd be buddies.
I do however like his line to Theo...which hangs over the entire episode : "I'm sorry, did you think this was going to have a happy ending for you? Eh no."
There are no happy endings in Wars. Very anti-war.
* Ygritt and Jon Snow...climb to the top, amongst much difficulty and celebrate with a kiss - that's a lovely bit, but paralleled with Gilly and Sam who sing stories to a little baby in the dark of wood, along with Bran who watches Jojen have nasty visions regarding Jon Snow.
While Brienne and Jamie attempt with mixed success to save one another's dignity and lives. They are an interesting pair. She does it with physical strength, Jamie with his wits and tongue. The Jamie/Brienne bit is following the books almost to the letter - thank god.
* Finally the last line that hangs over the episode...from Little Finger, filled with venom.
Varys: Don't you understand, what you are doing will lead to chaos..that is a pit.
Little Finger: No, Chaos is a ladder...for those who have the strength and will to climb up it.
He is a piece of work. The Iago of the novel. In some respects the most frightening and creepy of the villains.
Overall great episode, even if I could have done without the Theon bits. I think they like to torture us with Theon. Oh well, the casting is good - he's no more appealing than he was in the books.
As an aside I'm glad I have a few people on my flist who are completely clueless about the books, but I need to find a whole group.
* I don't remember the Melisandra and Thoros conversation in the book. But rather loved it here and so that's what happened to Gendry? I thought he just stayed with the Brotherhood?
I also don't remember Melisandra and Ayra talking in the books. If it's a change - it's a good change. But oh dear, poor Gendry.
R'Hollar...I agree with Bendric, Rholla is not a good god. Feels like the God of War or Mars.
The other side he tells Melisandra is dark not light and this God is not light, but a dark god.
* The scenes with the Lannisters still rock. Adored the conversation with Cersei and Tyrion who commiserating over their father's annoying marital plans, and Tywin and Queen of Thorns.
The Queen tries to twart Tywin, but gives up for now. Tyrion has aptly decided that Sansa got the worst of the bargain. Cersei doesn't disagree. But naively thinks Jamie would and could save her. Tyrion also finds out from Cersei, as do we, that it was Joffrey who ordered the hit on him not her. (She'd have been brighter about it and poisoned him.) I think Cersei's arc works better here...than it did in the books. It's clearer and it also parallels Catelynn's arc quite well, not to mention ironically.
* Little Finger is even worse here than he was in the books. I don't remember that bit with Joffrey and the whores at all. Although it does a great job of showing the audience what a mad sadist Joffrey is. Joffrey and the guy torturing Theon have a lot in common. And RIP dear Roz. You were better off with Tyrion than Little Finger.
Little Finger pretty much admits here what I'd managed to figure out from the last episode - that he manipulated the whole thing to thwart Varys plan to marry Sansa off to Highgarden.
Actually what happens is a result of Varys and Littlefingers chess match with each other.
Little Finger's snitch is more adept than Varys...who managed to get caught. Poor Roz - she did not deserve that.
* Oh dear...Rob Stark bargains with the Freys...and agrees to marry Edmure off to one of Frey's daughters in exchange for an alliance. For the good of the kingdom, he tells Edmure, for the good of the family, for the win. It's a rather dark scene, filled with foreboding.
* The guy torturing Theon...and seriously, why do we have to have this too in S3? I guess it's better to do it now than in flashback. But in the books it was actually less grueling, they referred to it, we didn't actually have to live through it. And the guy torturing Theon is a true sadist. Although I think Joffrey could give him a run for his money. Shame they can't meet - they'd be buddies.
I do however like his line to Theo...which hangs over the entire episode : "I'm sorry, did you think this was going to have a happy ending for you? Eh no."
There are no happy endings in Wars. Very anti-war.
* Ygritt and Jon Snow...climb to the top, amongst much difficulty and celebrate with a kiss - that's a lovely bit, but paralleled with Gilly and Sam who sing stories to a little baby in the dark of wood, along with Bran who watches Jojen have nasty visions regarding Jon Snow.
While Brienne and Jamie attempt with mixed success to save one another's dignity and lives. They are an interesting pair. She does it with physical strength, Jamie with his wits and tongue. The Jamie/Brienne bit is following the books almost to the letter - thank god.
* Finally the last line that hangs over the episode...from Little Finger, filled with venom.
Varys: Don't you understand, what you are doing will lead to chaos..that is a pit.
Little Finger: No, Chaos is a ladder...for those who have the strength and will to climb up it.
He is a piece of work. The Iago of the novel. In some respects the most frightening and creepy of the villains.
Overall great episode, even if I could have done without the Theon bits. I think they like to torture us with Theon. Oh well, the casting is good - he's no more appealing than he was in the books.
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Date: 2013-05-10 02:01 am (UTC)Felt the same way about Ygritt...although I can't remember what happened to her - exactly, just that she died. (Don't tell me, they may change it anyhow.)