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Raises fist impotently at universe and nameless faceless things I can't do anything about.

Me: My father's voice is in my head - "Don't let the turkey's get you down."
Chidi (who is kind of metaphor blind looks at me quizzically).
Me: Turkeys are people annoying you or hurting you.
Chidi: Oh.
Me: I think its time to declare open season on the Turkeys.
Chidi laughs.

***

Me: I don't know why I've been so angry lately...
Mother: That's also part of grief.
Me: Yeah, my beautiful, kind, loving father went through the hell of Alztheimers, and there are all these nasty people who hurt me and others who are perfectly fine. It's not fair.

Alzheimers makes me angry, impotently so.

**
Speaking of nasty people..

Me vs. the idiotic OTW support at Ao3

[By the way, a huge thank you to whomever is sending hostile emails to these folks and making them miserable. They keep complaining about it on Ao3 - on the front page.]

See last post on the nasty email they sent me out of the blue.
What do I think prompted it? I posted two reviews of Twilight movies.
Although weirdly they didn't list either as the problem, but a bunch of movie reviews. Four in fact - Last Chance Harvey, Miss Potter, The Help,
and Bridesmaids.

This is their FAQ's :

Why does the Archive have a goal of maximum inclusiveness?

There are a number of wonderful specialized archives. Our aim with this Archive is to provide a place to preserve as many fanworks as possible. At the same time, the Archive software can be used by anyone to create their own archives, including archives limited to particular topics, fandoms, or ratings.


Content Policies and Abuse Procedures
What sort of things would lead to permanent suspension?

It's impossible to define everything in advance. We are most concerned with people who are actively and deliberately hostile to the community. Repeated upheld copyright complaints involving nontransformative works may lead to a permanent suspension. Wholesale plagiarism and deliberate disclosure of another person's real-life name or other identifying information readily justify permanent suspension, whereas a personal conflict that gets out of control may justify temporary suspension. Small and honest mistakes, even if they are annoying, are more likely to draw warnings.
What constrains the abuse team's discretion?

Our commitment is to build a community that welcomes anyone with a willingness to learn the rules but defends itself against people who deliberately flout them. Our discretion is aimed at that objective. Procedurally, permanent suspensions for violations other than spam or threatening the technical integrity of the site require a majority vote of the abuse team. Majority rule builds in checks on individual discretion without trying to resolve every possible situation in advance.
What do you mean by "only people who have a need to know" about a complaint will be informed of it?

Abuse and complaint information is kept confidential. The abuse team guards all such information carefully, and all members of the abuse team have agreed to an industry-standard confidentiality policy. On occasion, the abuse team may need to consult with the Systems committee, to request specific technical or log information to aid our investigation, for example, or the Legal committee, to discuss precise legal requirements. We may also contact the subject of a complaint, to request their perspective or to inform them of penalties their actions have incurred. For information about what details we would release to the subject of a complaint, please see our Privacy Policy and other Abuse FAQs.
What happens if someone who's a friend of someone on the abuse team is involved in a complaint?

We expect the members of the abuse team to behave professionally, even though OTW is entirely volunteer-staffed. We take the responsibilities of serving on the abuse team seriously, and a member of the team with a personal relationship to either party in an abuse situation is expected to recuse themselves entirely from the case, and, of course, to maintain our standards of confidentiality at all times; failure to do so may be grounds for dismissal from the team.

What do the different account statuses mean?

We define account statuses the following way:

Warning

At its discretion, the abuse team may issue a warning, rather than a suspension, in the instance of minor violations of the ToS. A user who has recently received a warning and who violates the ToS again, especially in the same or a similar manner, is likely to incur a suspension.
Suspension

The abuse team may issue a time-limited ban on the uploading of new content and creation of new accounts; suspension occurs as the result of strikes incurred for violating the Archive's ToS. During this time, the suspended user can remove, but not edit, content uploaded prior to the suspension.
Permanent Suspension

The abuse team may issue a permanent ban on the uploading of new content. Permanently suspended users cannot create new accounts or upload content to Archive, though they retain the right to remove, but not edit, content uploaded prior to the permanent suspension.
If I complain non-anonymously, will the subject be told who complained?

Only people who need to know about a complaint will be informed about it. The subject of a complaint may be among those who need to know. No information other than that provided in the complaint will be passed on, and the complainant has complete control over what information is submitted to Abuse. Complaints can be submitted anonymously. Legal names and other information sufficient to identify a person in the physical world will never be disclosed as part of a standard abuse complaint. For further clarification, please see our Privacy Policy.
Will I be informed of complaints against me?

In general, the abuse team will only communicate with the subject of a complaint if there appears to be a violation of the abuse policy, or if the abuse team needs more information to resolve the issue.
How would the suspended user control their nonobjectionable content without an account?

Non-objectionable fanworks are not removed from the site when a user is suspended. Suspended users who wish to delete or orphan their fanworks may contact the Abuse team to have this done for them.
What information is available about a permanently suspended or deleted account? Can I reuse a userID that belonged to a deleted account?

Permanent suspension doesn't delete accounts; unless deleted by the user, any existing content that doesn't violate the content policy or other parts of the Terms of Service remains. It is possible that a userID that has been deleted by the user will be available to other people.
How do I appeal the resolution of a complaint?

The person against whom a complaint was resolved can submit an appeal the same way as one would submit a complaint, by contacting Abuse.





Email #1:So, fanworks are not essays regarding fandom, not reviews of movies, not fannish analysis or critical snark of episodes or movies? I didn't put journal entries - I uploaded specific reviews and fannish reactions to episodes.

Email #2 I read this in your FAQ's - "It's impossible to define everything in advance. We are most concerned with people who are actively and deliberately hostile to the community. Repeated upheld copyright complaints involving nontransformative works may lead to a permanent suspension. Wholesale plagiarism and deliberate disclosure of another person's real-life name or other identifying information readily justify permanent suspension, whereas a personal conflict that gets out of control may justify temporary suspension. Small and honest mistakes, even if they are annoying, are more likely to draw warnings."

How are movie reviews and reviews of episodes hostile to fandom? How is this non-transformative? I don't understand why an honest movie review is considered hostile and should be removed.

Email #3: Perhaps you should state clearly: No reviews. No theater, book, movie reviews. No episode reviews. And remove the "inclusiveness" statement from your FAQ, since you are exclusive of works that are not fanfic, fan vids, and fan art? Do not call yourselves inclusive when you are not.

Email #4: I read through your FAQ, and haven't a clue what needs to be removed from it. Also, there are tags for "reviews", episode related, and reviews on episodes. And people have praised my episode reviews. There's no copyright infringement, and I've been careful to remove links no longer available. I'm confused by your dictates.

And in-depth character analysis is in there. It's impossible for me to determine from your rules what to remove, when you allow film review and reviews of episodes. Are you censoring content that you don't like? Is that not against your own requirements?

Email 5: I'm sorry, I don't know what to delete what not to delete. And I shared your email with friends who are also on Ao3 and saw my works, and they don't understand your email either. It's not clear what you wish me to delete. I deleted a few recent stuff, but honestly I'm at a loss. All meta can be considered a review, most fanworks are personal and published in journals first. I feel somewhat insulted and hurt, when I was just trying to share my work and provide it for others. People have told me that my work made their night. That they loved it - and the work they commented on were reviews. This is not an easy time for anyone. I wasn't trying to hurt anyone or deliberately breaking your rules. And don't even know how to begin to address your rage and attack on my works. Don't worry - no more works will be uploaded to Ao3 from me - fanfic, meta, essay, review or otherwise. I'm glad I helped a few people feel better at least and made their days.

For example - in regards to the review of the Help? It involves analysis: "Gender is an underlying theme here - and I think an important one, which we don't want to see. Right now, in the 21st Century gender inequalities remain a problem, in some respects a much larger one than racial inequalities. In The Help - it is underlined as well. What's interesting in The Help and in a way distinguishes it from other films that discuss racism, is that men aren't really discussed. When I say they are like the unseen and rarely discussed parents in Peanuts...that hits fairly close to the mark. We are aware of them. We do see them. They are definitely the one's in power. The women talk about them to the extent that they realize they can't get ahead without a man. Skeeter must get married, must land a rich husband, to go out on her own, become a writer - is going against the stream. When she gets a job at a local paper - she's asked to write the cleaning tips column, and in turn goes to her friend's to ask their permission to talk to their maids for cleaning tips. She's made to feel ugly because she can't attract a man, keep him. And her friend, Hily, is setting her up with a man. Who she hits it off with, but he condemns her for not supporting the status quo, for writing The Help." That's an analysis of a film, not just a reaction. It's a review. Perhaps the people complaining think only fanfic should be uploaded? But others disagree. They don't have to read it - but we need to think long and hard about what to "EXCLUDE" from a site that states up front that it's main purpose is to be "INCLUSIVE" of fanworks and a safe place to post your works.

Email #6: Please advise if you need me to take down all my reviews? It's hard to know from what you selected. I have lengthy Buffy meta on this site - and a lot of it. Over 90% of my works are meta, only four are fanfic. If you want this to be a fanfic only - then why do you state that meta and reviews are welcome, and why are these tags?

Email #7 :And it should be noted that two people liked that review and appreciated that the Help review was posted. I'm leery of deleting it off-hand. The items you listed as things people complained about make no sense. But I am trying to comply - but it is almost impossible to do. Perhaps you should delete the works or notify me prior to your deletions, this may work better - since I clearly have no idea what you think is inappropriate on a fan site. None of my works violate copyright law, they don't personally attack anyone, and they aren't hostile, and the items you listed don't do that either. I'd understand this email - if they were hostile, violent, violated copyright law, included old videos, or tried to promote or sell personal items, but I'm not promoting anything here. None of my works are in reference to my own original non-fandom related writings. And people are enjoying them.

I'm sorry I remain bewildered, saddened, confused, and pained by your email.. It's impossible to comply with something that isn't clear, and vague.

**
I did delete three of the five innocuous movie reviews they cited, along with a few other items (15 People you meet on the internet and in fandom, sociological analysis of television shows, an episode review of an Once episode, and a few movie reviews of two of the Twilight films (which probably resulted in the complaint)... Then gave up. (I'm not sure what they'll make of what I did - except that I got pissed off, tried to comply, gave up, and left them in the lurch. I really don't care as much about my content as they appear to.) I spent too much time uploading them, I've neither the time nor the patience to pull them. They can either let it go. Or they can be assholes and delete and permanently suspend my account.

It's ironic in a way - since non-fiction fanworks are protected by copyright law and aren't considered an infringement, fictional fanworks are not protected under copyright law and in certain areas considered infringement. They'd be better off archiving the non-fictional works.

I feel idiotic for being furious. But I am. Impotently so. Yet another group of nameless faceless people I can't do anything about.

Morale: Do not archive your written works of any kind on sites owned and run by nameless and faceless people with a bunch of hard to understand and vague FAQs. And don't do it while grieving a loved one.

And a site run by volunteers isn't necessarily a nice one.

Plus? I can't help but think it was the Universe's way of getting me to stop obsessively posting reviews, episode reviews, and episode meta to Ao3.
When I should be doing other things. Better things with my time.

Universe: Stop. Work on your book.
Me: In a minute.
Universe: Take a walk.
Me: In a minute, posting this first to Ao3
Universe: Fine, be that way.
Ao3: Take down 90% of your work and stop posting reviews.
Me:You Bleeding Fockers. Curse you! Raises fist at universe.
Universe: ...hee hee?

***

Work.

Ugh.

TGIF

Oh well, my non-management co-workers/colleagues make it worth while. Now if only we can get rid of management.

We kind of help each other. AM actually came up with a way to save us all time on the dreaded excel charts. Turns out I was right - the course she took and her presentation was on a new IT methodology. Brought back memories of when I created a royalty database in Access with IT and Accounting back in the late 1990s, early 00s.

Management tends to ignore anything that isn't on the dreaded charts. It's crazy - because that stuff ends up falling through the cracks and is important.

***

I wanted to smack the conductors on the trains this morning. I got to the G train at 6:45 am. The train is in the station. Everyone is waiting for the conductor to arrive. After about ten minutes, he arrives - only to remove the train from the station without any of us on board - he took it out. So that the F trains backed up behind it could arrive. Those trains come, one on either side of the platform, and then take off. Another one comes, it takes off. Then seven minutes later another G. Then we wait another five to ten minutes for a conductor, she arrives and let's us in, we wait another five minutes, and then take off. I did get to the LIRR station by 7:20 at least (train leaves at 7:29). When I got to the LIRR train, the doors at the front of each car were closed, but the end were open, so you had to walk further.

***

Oh well, it wasn't that bad outside at least. And now that the storm clouds passed without doing anything - I'm not edgy, was very edgy all day today and yesterday - which only served to fuel the anger.

Now that the heavy air mass has passed, I no longer feel edgy. Either that or the beta blocker worked, or the cry with mother over the phone...was more cathartic then expected.

Have a hair cut planned on Sunday at 3pm, new stylist, new salon, about a fifteen minute walk from my house. As opposed to a subway. We'll see how it goes. If it goes poorly, in two months, I'll get it fixed.

Date: 2022-07-23 01:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mtbc
Yes, sites run by volunteers can be awkwardly unpredictable. Many are great, some get some weird ideas and get to wield them anyway.

Date: 2022-07-23 06:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
Yeah the ToS are written by lawyers and it's quite possible the ToS FAQ was as well. However the interpretation is left to the Policy & Abuse Committee and the way they're interpreting things makes no sense to me. I agree with you that if they don't want reviews they should just state in the documentation that it's not permitted. That would clearly save everyone a lot of trouble.

I didn't understand what you meant by this though: "By the way, a huge thank you to whomever is sending hostile emails to these folks and making them miserable. They keep complaining about it on Ao3 - on the front page"

Date: 2022-07-23 06:53 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian: Natasha Peek (AVEN-Natasha Peek-teal)
From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
Ah yeah. No that was something else entirely. That was an attack by people who want them to censor content they consider to be child porn on the site. So it's a pro-censorship attack.

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