Actually in this instance it wasn't the professionals but the American public that voted her off. (Elton John after this episode aired, stated that American Idol was racist b/c the three best singers were in the bottom three - the divas - he was right by the way, the only good singers who came out of that competition with any albums or that we could remember were those three.) Jackson had brought her back from an earlier offing as a "wild card". And the three judges, if you listen closely, are trying to justify what they clearly see as a bad decision by the voting public. "This is not a popularity contest" - they keep saying, when obviously they are beginning to think that's what it is.
What it proves is "popular" opinion is basically not worth that much. And the public? Not able to see talent or know where it goes. Look at the people the "public" made stars and look at Hudson? Gives me hope because it basically tells Marketing people that surveys and asking people what they want is an inexact and faulty science. Truth is? People don't know. And they are fickle. Also just because other people tell you - you can't do it, doesn't always mean they are right.
I always just thought it was bad luck, that several really talented Black girls had to compete against each other, and probably ended up splitting their vote. BUT the fact is that it is never a bad thing to lose American Idol. If Jennifer Hudson had won then she would have been tied up with appearance contracts and she may not have made it into the movie at all. American Idol served it's purpose by showcasing her talent, and making her enough of a household name so that she really stood out in auditions.
It's certainly ironic that the singers from that show that have gone on the biggest amount of applause, with the exception of Carrie Underwood (who I think had a singing career in place prior to Idol but hadn't gotten picked up) - were not the winners. Clay Aiken lost to Reuben, Chris Dougherty lost to Taylor Hicks and is right now outselling Hicks, Hudson got booted over Fantasia and LaToya - and Fantasia looked at Hudson and allegedly stated you "stole" my role. LOL!
I think that if you last long enough in American Idol to get into the top ten, then you have enough exposure and face recognition to insure a career if you have any talent (including stage presence) at all. I'm glad to hear Chris Dougherty is doing well, I really admired his style (and I really didn't like Taylor Hick's style at all). I don't call in...but I do enjoy watching the later rounds, when they are made to cover different song writers, or sing songs from different periods. It gives you a good idea of the singer's ability to stretch, and/or be true to their own style (both things are good, but it is always interesting to watch).
Oh I heard about Fantasia thinking Hudson 'stole' her role! Fact is that Fantasia can barely get through an interview, I don't think she could ever do on screen what Jennifer Hudson did.
I watch more or less the same way you do - in the later rounds. To see how they handle different song choices - off and on, it's not appointment tv for me and only if I don't find something else more entertaining. Seen the humilation a thons this week, because nothing else on and didn't feel like popping in a DVD...but cringe-worthy. Very cringe-worthy.
Agreed on Hicks and Fantasia. Yes, Fantasia has a good voice, but not the presence and chutzpah that Hudson has. I honestly think someone out there, probably Randy Jackson grabbed Hudson and signed her to a recording contract before Idol even ended. If you saw her rendition of Circle of Life that season....the woman has a voice on her.
It's certainly ironic that the singers from that show that have gone on the biggest amount of applause, with the exception of Carrie Underwood (who I think had a singing career in place prior to Idol but hadn't gotten picked up) - were not the winners.
Also excepting Kelly Clarkson. She's doing pretty well, careerwise. The other winners, not as well...
Yeah, but the woman's voice makes me cringe in the same way that Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake and Clay Aiken's do. Just not a fan of pop, I'm afraid. Every time I hear it in malls, it's like it won't let go of me and I want to pull my hair out, specialists in bad earworm/muzac songs..."oops I did it again".
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Date: 2007-01-18 11:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-01-18 04:46 pm (UTC)What it proves is "popular" opinion is basically not worth that much.
And the public? Not able to see talent or know where it goes.
Look at the people the "public" made stars and look at Hudson?
Gives me hope because it basically tells Marketing people that surveys and asking people what they want is an inexact and faulty science. Truth is? People don't know. And they are fickle. Also just because other people tell you - you can't do it, doesn't always mean they are right.
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Date: 2007-01-18 05:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-01-18 07:37 pm (UTC)Sometimes winning isn't as great as it looks.
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Date: 2007-01-18 08:36 pm (UTC)I don't call in...but I do enjoy watching the later rounds, when they are made to cover different song writers, or sing songs from different periods. It gives you a good idea of the singer's ability to stretch, and/or be true to their own style (both things are good, but it is always interesting to watch).
Oh I heard about Fantasia thinking Hudson 'stole' her role! Fact is that Fantasia can barely get through an interview, I don't think she could ever do on screen what Jennifer Hudson did.
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Date: 2007-01-18 10:43 pm (UTC)To see how they handle different song choices - off and on, it's not appointment tv for me and only if I don't find something else more entertaining. Seen the humilation a thons this week, because nothing else on and didn't feel like popping in a DVD...but cringe-worthy.
Very cringe-worthy.
Agreed on Hicks and Fantasia. Yes, Fantasia has a good voice, but not the presence and chutzpah that Hudson has. I honestly think someone out there, probably Randy Jackson grabbed Hudson and signed her to a recording contract before Idol even ended. If you saw her rendition of Circle of Life that season....the woman has a voice on her.
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Date: 2007-01-19 12:21 am (UTC)Also excepting Kelly Clarkson. She's doing pretty well, careerwise. The other winners, not as well...
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Date: 2007-01-19 03:17 am (UTC)