Cranky musing

[shadowkat]

It's stuffy in the office today, put on the fan. Helped a bit. And the air finally came on, but am regretting wearing my work sweater (with zip underneath). Love them, but they are problematic when one gets hot. Can't exactly take the damn things off, you know.

Restrained myself from responding to a Bangle shipper who commented on one of my old Buffy reviews, can't remember which one. Deleted the email from the email queue not the post (it's still there - I'm just pretending it isn't which is rather easy to do since I rarely if ever re-read old posts let alone comments threads), to avoid responding. Because honestly? What's the point? This is one of those arguements that I've decided is unwinnable and useless to enter into on the net or real life, unless of course you want to frustrate yourself for no apparent reason. (I've got work and apartment hunting for that, don't need help from other quarters).

The arguement basically consists of this:

My romantic relationship is better and more canonical than your romantic relationship, and obviously the hero/heroine's true love is obviously this character. And you are an idiot for not seeing it my way and loving it the way I do. Nyah, nyah, nyah. (Examples: Doctor 10/Rose vs. Doctor/River vs. Doctor/Martha vs. Doctor/Donna or Spike/Buffy vs. Angel/Buffy, vs. Riley/Buffy, vs. Xander/Buffy etc...) This debate has zip to do with story, character evolution, theme, or anything = other than well my team is better than your team mentality. I'm tempted to tell the nitwits who attempt to engage me in this blather to go to a football or baseball game, preferably an away game with a bunch of fans who are rooting for the other team.

Folks - I liked Bangel back in 1997-2000. I grew up. Changed. Got older. Wisened up. And got over it. I'm not going to just devolve and like them again. I moved on with the story as I tend to do. If the story convinced me that they were still a couple or were meant for each other? Than sure, I'd be into them. But it hasn't. If anything it's (and by it's - I mean the Angel and Buffy tv series and the stupid comics) done the exact opposite, convinced me with absolute and unwavering certaintity that both of these characters (Angel and Buffy) would be better off with just about anyone else. And well shouldn't even be allowed in the same room together. There's absolutely nothing at all in either the series or the comics that can change my mind on that. Ever. If there was - I would have changed it. Ain't gonna happen. I'm more likely to change my mind about Sara Palin or George W. Bush...which also is highly unlikely to happen...

Comments

[embers-log.livejournal.com]

Well I never liked Bangel, I thought he was too old and experienced for her, and I resented his 'mentoring' attitude.... But I was perfectly willing to believe that the Buffy was supposed to love Angel and I can even believe she has a tenderness for her first love.
I just happen to love Spike way more myownself (I love articulate and funny men), and I liked that Buffy had more power in the relationship. But even so I would have found it perfectly easy to accept Spike's demise if he had died at the end of BtVS S7's finale 'Chosen'.

I'm glad Spike didn't die because Brian Lynch's comics have brought me great joy.

Oh and I also found Doctor Who #10/Rose to be really soppy and annoying.... River Song seems like a better fit, but I'm content w/my Doctor being all alone in the world. JMPO of course.

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

I understood early Bangle. Heck, I liked the initial relationship.
But now? It makes no sense. The guy has destroyed the world three times, he has tried to kill all of her friends, and has sucessfully killed many of the people under her protection or were her direct responsibility. And he's still hurting people.
(shrugs).

Anywho...people think differently. Which is why having arguments about stuff like this is sort of pointless. Three things I no longer or try to no longer argue about:

1. religion
2. politics
3. Buffy's relationships and other character relationships. ;-)

[embers-log.livejournal.com]

it is a waste of time arguing about subjective personal opinion... it can be discussed for the interest/comparison, but the second people start thinking they are 'right' and you are 'wrong' then all conversation is at an end. I really like knowing how my friends are seeing BtVS, but I do try to avoid announcing that they are watching it wrong! lol

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

Easier said than done, I'm afraid. Was discussing this over the phone tonight with my mother - regarding politics. She is a liberal democrat living amongst ultra-conservative Republicans, many of whom voted for Tea Party candidates and hate Obama. She can't discuss politics with her friends. And she can't understand why they see it that way. Their logic confounds her. It's no different with reading the comics or watching a tv series - we forget that we think differently. And how we think does change over time. I don't think the same way I did ten-fifteen years ago. No one does. Not really.

Experiences both internal and external, as well as vicarious change us.

I admittedly do not understand how anyone in their right mind can
see Buffy and Angel as true love or a great romance based on the comic books. How they can't see what to me is obvious satire...and
ridicule, is beyond me. But...I also don't understand how my Aunt in Michigan voted for Bush for two terms, loved him, and voted Republican. Or how my cousin adores the Twilight novels. I still love them. I agree with them on other things. I just don't understand their thinking - it's alien to me. But equally, they don't understand how I think either. We choose not to talk about it.

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

I love my Aunt and cousin, not Twilight and Bush..in case of confusion.