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1. Hmmm...looked at the preview pages of the Spike #4 comic - which will hopefully be available Sunday (the day I buy comics). It looks promising. The art has actually improved. Dru looks like Dru and Spike looks like Spike. Progress. Also, I like the dialogue and set-up.

Then I glanced at other journals?? Apparently I'm the only Spike fan and Spuffy fan who likes the idea of a Spike/Dru reunion and finds it interesting? What? Spike was with Dru for 100 years and she returned his affections for most of it, while Buffy...that's still up in the air, as far as I can tell.
Also it's not exactly like any of these characters are monogamous in their affections. Whedon has created a polygamous world. Hee. Of course it may help greatly that I no longer traffic the boards and avoid fandom shipper wars. (because they give me a headache and have zip to do with characters or story and provide nothing at all constructive, outside of making one's blood pressure skyrocket - ie. it's like arguing politics at work. My blood-pressure doesn't need the additional workout.)

Speaking of politics - a really interesting animation film rec'd by sisinlaw.

Date: 2011-01-12 04:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rahirah
Seems to me that Spike meeting Dru again is a pretty interesting scenario. I'm not sure why people aren't interested, except that a lot of them just don't seem to think Lynch has done a good job with this series so far, perhaps? I wouldn't even think there would be shippy objections, because the chances of souled Spike hooking up with Dru again are minuscule.

Date: 2011-01-12 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
Agreed. And people rarely do it in fanfic. I think I know of maybe two that did a Dru/SouledSpike fic, post NFA.

not sure why people aren't interested, except that a lot of them just don't seem to think Lynch has done a good job with this series so far, perhaps?

Possibly. I know he rubs a lot of people the wrong way. And a lot of people don't appreciate his humor (he pokes fun at the comics, both series, and the fandom - in a way that I suspect puts off a lot of people or rubs them the wrong way. ) (shrugs).

I wouldn't even think there would be shippy objections, because the chances of souled Spike hooking up with Dru again are minuscule.

I'm guessing this is a direct response to the Bangel vs. Spuffy wars that give us all a headache. Sigh. And I thought Yankees and Red Sox fans were bad.
















Date: 2011-01-12 07:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elisi
I like Spike/Dru! And if reviews are generally positive I might pick up the TPB.

I think the unhappiness stems from the Bangel being v. happy that Spike is with Someone Other Than Buffy. *shrugs*

Date: 2011-01-12 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
I like Spike/Dru! And if reviews are generally positive I might pick up the TPB.

Will let you know. Right now it's a bit uneven, but in comparison to Willingham, Meltzer, and Whedon...actually pretty good.


I think the unhappiness stems from the Bangel being v. happy that Spike is with Someone Other Than Buffy. *shrugs*

Sigh. I swear some Bangel and Spuffy fans make obsessive sports fans look relatively sane in comparison. If they were at all logical - they'd realize that all three characters have been with multiple partners other than each other, and have at different points passionately boinked each other. Spike's boinked Angel (or vice versa - it's relatively unclear), Angel's boinked about every blond from here to eternity - I'm guessing he has a fetish for blonds? Oh wait, there was Cordelia - although they never actually boinked. Actually if you count...Angel's boinked and been with more people than Spike - but he is also the lead...so there's that. I keep waiting for the threesome...oh wait, there was one in Buffy's fantasy and the fans spent six issues arguing over who Buffy preferred from the art.

Did not help that Jeanty and Allie chimed in. Although in retrospect, I can see why - they were trying to build up the fact that Buffy had unresolved romantic feelings for Angel - because otherwise issues 32-39 does not work. Unfortunately, I didn't see that built up in the text at all, Xander/Buffy maybe, or Spike/Buffy - from the lack of a mention and the fact that we didn't know if she knew if he was alive or dead until issue 36. But Buffy/Angel? That looked like a bit of romantic nostalgia, nothing more. No...it was only built up in their interviews, which I'm sorry is not the same thing as the text!

Date: 2011-01-12 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] local-max.livejournal.com
I think a Spike/Dru story could be interesting--lots of possible directions to go. I'm not a huge fan of Lynch, though, and excerpts of his Dru dialogue from earlier issues rubbed me the wrong way. I'll probably read the TPB when it comes out.

Date: 2011-01-12 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
If you don't like Lynch's writing style, I do not recommend reading his comics let alone forking over the cash for the TPB which is more expensive.

I like Lynch - that's why I read him.;-)

Date: 2011-01-12 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
Lynch's writing style in the Spike comics. Not anywhere else.

Date: 2011-01-12 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] local-max.livejournal.com
Ha ha.

What makes me want to read it is actually the Spike/Willow interaction--which for some reason interests me more than Spike/Dru! Lynch's style has its ups and downs; I'm not a fan but I'm not against him per se. I should say that I'll probably read it depending on what people say once all the issues are out. (The PTB is still much cheaper than the individual issues. Plus maybe I can just, er, read it in Chapters or some such....)

Date: 2011-01-13 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
That's apparently issue 5.

And I'm admittedly interested in Spike and Willow as well. The three reunions that I was curious about are Spike and Dru (I want to see how he deals with her - with a soul. I'm less interested in how she deals with him, than I am with how he deals with her), Spike and Willow (I want to know how they handle each other - since in some respects they mirrored one another in S6 and later - and the series never delved into that or examined their relationship - an unanswered and unasked question that continues to annoy me.) Spike and Buffy (because I want to know how they handle the fact he survived Sunnydale and what happens after that moment...but it also has never been significantly or satisfyingly addressed or asked. And apparently never ever will be. Instead their reunion was used to provide bad exposition.)

Sigh. Would be happy if just one out of the three gets addressed in a partially satisfying manner...right now? we're 0-0. Joss struck out. Lynch is up to bat. It's at the bottom of the ninth.
Let's see if he can hits a grounder, doubt a homerun is doable. At this point I'd settle for a pop-fly, to be honest. Sorry for the baseball metaphors, I'd do cricket, but I don't understand cricket. ;-)

Date: 2011-01-12 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enzialla.livejournal.com
Darla could feel Angel's soul and she was feeling discussed.
Don't you think that Dru would feel the same way about Spike's soul? And besides, Spike made a choice to have a soul, he wasn't cursed with it.
Dru has always been daddy's little girl. She may have sired Spike, but her main interest has been Angelus.
In season 2 of BtVS, she is all into Angelus the minute he's back.
I really don't understand where this story is going to.
I read it and basically i don't hear Drusilla, i hear a sane person.
I have read a post saying that it would be interesting to have Dru with a soul, no, please, that girl has suffered enough, i don't think she will be able to carry the burden of a soul with her insanity.

So, no, i am not so interested in this story unless it gets much much better.

Date: 2011-01-12 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
In S2 Buffy, Dru didn't react to Angel's soul the same way Darla did, nor did she in Angel S2. Dru isn't the same as Darla.

Date: 2011-01-12 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fangfaceandrea.livejournal.com
I was very excited to Know there was going to be a Dru/Spike reunion, they might be romantically over but the amout of baggage between them and the changes in their lives make for very interesting conversations... and for what I read I will be 10 times better that the colossal fail of the DH spuffy reunion.

Date: 2011-01-12 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
Hee. I agree. And nice to see I'm not the only one.

Sigh...don't get me started on the massive fail that is the Buffy comics.
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