Game of Thrones - Raines of Castamere...

[shadowkat]

Eh believe it or not, this scene was far gorier in the books. Sort of glad they didn't go there.

But in both cases it upset me, because of Arya mostly...and the fact that Robb and Catlynn had finally grown on me. It also deadened me to anything that could happen afterwards.

Weird that his wife was there and pregnant. She wasn't in the books. But I now know why - to explain why Robb is rendered defenseless and doesn't run.

Forgot the Blackfish was there...thought he wasn't. And they didn't do the scene with Edmund Tully in the bath with his new wife, who warns him when the song begins. Did it here - with Catelynn recognizing the song and seeing Lord Bolton's expression and the closing of the gates.

Oh well at least Theon wasn't on. But I missed the Lannisters quite a bit. Even though it's made clear by Lord Bolton that Tywin Lannister was behind it - when he says, "The Lannisters send their regards" - when he stabs Robb through the back.



ETA:..there be spoilage in the comments thread.

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[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Feel more or less the same way. I sort of wish I hadn't read the books. In some respects I prefer how the TV series is handling things - it's more understated and less over-the-top.

I was so relieved that we didn't have to watch Catelynn claw her skin off down to the bone, kill "Jinglebell" - the Jester who sings The Rains of Castamare - it's actually sung in the book - because we get the words, I think. Cersei explains the song in the previous episode, so I guess it's not necessary to have the words here - the violin's are more eerie anyhow. OR watch Robb get beheaded along with the entire company. They didn't show the Frey's sewing Robb's Wolf's head onto his body, the Lannister's and Queen of Thorns just talk about it in the book. Hoping they don't show it in the series...doesn't appear they will.

I remember checking the appendix for some reason or other and being bewildered by the mention of Robb and Catelyn both dying at the Red Wedding. Okay, I thought, what the heck?

Then I read it and ...the most painful bit of it, is well the same thing that was incredibly painful about Ned Stark's death - you think the writer is going to reunite Ned with Jon Snow at the Wall...but nooo, and in this one, you are lead to believe Arya is finally going to reunited with her mother and brother, you may even be writing fanfic in your head about the reunion...but noooo...

When the Red Wedding happened, I still had hope. So while I knew Catelynn and Robb would die, I figured Ayra may get reunited with them first - eh no. (Actually the whole Ayra section in Storm is highly frustrating - poor kid can't seem to reunite with anyone she cares about, and the one's she almost reunites with are killed either in front of her or she's left to believe they soon will be.) I also didn't know how they'd die...in the book's it was far more horrific, because you are seeing it through Catelynn and Arya's eyes. And Catelynn goes insane...actually there are two scenes like that in Storm, mother going insane.

[embers-log.livejournal.com]

While I was watching it I was hoping that HBO was going to change some things... after all, Rob's bride wasn't supposed to be there, so I hoped she might escape... but you're right, even with all the blood, it wasn't as over the top gory as it was in the book!

It was kind of exciting seeing all the fans of GoT who never read the books going into shock and threaten to cancel their HBO subscriptions! These really were incredibly popular characters he was taking out so ruthlessly!

So next Sunday is the season finale(!) so exciting.

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

I was admittedly surprised that Robb's Wife was there. She isn't in the books, but she also is rarely with him in the books when he's traveling, and less seen. Their whole romance in the books is back-stage. Plus, she was set-up to marry Rob via Tywin Lannister. Here, Talisa isn't set up at all and is just some random woman that Robb falls for.

Plus killing her - gives that added shock value, where in the book's the added shock value came from beheading Robb and sewing his wolf's head on top of his body. (I really hope they don't show or mention that...that was awful. Still remember it. And over-the-top.) This worked better, even if it made Robb look like an idiot for bringing here. In fact Lord Walder Frey - more or less states as much to Robb with his eyes - "really? you really brought your wife here - to this wedding - and thrust her in my face? I'm so going to enjoy killing her in front of you."

The problem with the tv series is that Robb is played by an actor in his 20s, with full beard. When in the book's he's barely 15 years of age. And very wet-behind-the-ears. Keep in mind the Stark kids had never left Winterfell prior to Ned's decision to be Hand of the King.
I'm not sure that's gotten across as well in the tv series. The Starks come across as bigger idiots on screen than they did in the books, which I'm not sure was possible.

At any rate curious to see if it loses fans. Doubt it. People are if anything more hooked. They want to see the guys who did it get it....