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Eh believe it or not, this scene was far gorier in the books. Sort of glad they didn't go there.

But in both cases it upset me, because of Arya mostly...and the fact that Robb and Catlynn had finally grown on me. It also deadened me to anything that could happen afterwards.

Weird that his wife was there and pregnant. She wasn't in the books. But I now know why - to explain why Robb is rendered defenseless and doesn't run.

Forgot the Blackfish was there...thought he wasn't. And they didn't do the scene with Edmund Tully in the bath with his new wife, who warns him when the song begins. Did it here - with Catelynn recognizing the song and seeing Lord Bolton's expression and the closing of the gates.

Oh well at least Theon wasn't on. But I missed the Lannisters quite a bit. Even though it's made clear by Lord Bolton that Tywin Lannister was behind it - when he says, "The Lannisters send their regards" - when he stabs Robb through the back.



ETA:..there be spoilage in the comments thread.

Date: 2013-06-06 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com
I can't remember for sure, but I don't think we have direct evidence that Jaime knew. At the time, he was still on parole with his deal with Catelyn, so I don't think he did.

Date: 2013-06-06 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com
Eh, my other expert - reginaspina clarified below - she basically supports what you've been telling me about the plot regarding the Westerling's which means Tywin had manipulated the events prior to the Red Wedding. Robb being a young and niave 15 year old, who doesn't listen much like his father before him, falls right into the trap. At least he was smart enough in the books not to bring his wife into it - although in the books, her mother never would have allowed it and he didn't know she was pregnant, assuming she is with his kid (although I doubt it matters to the writer). Fandom likes to see things that simply aren't there and is remarkably illogical in regards to story-thread specs.

Date: 2013-06-07 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophist.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was going to suggest you ask her, but you beat me to it. She's more up to date on the books.

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