shadowkat: (warrior)
So, I finally saw Justice League via Optimum "On Demand" for $4.99 rental. (Which by the way is a heck of a lot cheaper than in the movie theater -- that's $15.99. It's not worth $15.99, but it is worth $4.99.)

It was better than I expected. I'd been told that of course by a couple of friends who saw it and are fans of the DC Verse. (Personally, I prefer the Marvel Verse, it's a tad less fascist and more character centric, also Stan Lee's a bit more subversive than his DC co-horts. In fact in many ways Marvel is a commentary on DC.)

Anyhow, that caveat aside, it wasn't a bad movie. And I could tell Joss Whedon wrote the teleplay, the story is Zack Snyder's. And the combination of the two is...a little jarring in places. Whedon is more subversive a writer than Snyder and likes to undercut things with a sardonic and self-deprecating humor. There's a long speech by Aquaman towards the end, right before they go into battle, where he's basically saying "we're all going to die" which is totally Whedon, but not quite something I see Aquaman stating. Momoa pulls it off though.

The two surprises in the film are Aquaman and The Flash -- the casting for both is spot-on, and the actors are compelling. I actually prefer the cinematic version of the Flash to the CW version. The actor is both better looking and more compelling than the television version. Also Aquaman surprised the heck out of me -- Jason Momoa, best known from the Game of Thrones television series, is a charismatic actor and well, I don't tend to go for the muscle bound heroes, but he's hot. You guys can have Henry Cavill's Superman, I want Momoa.

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Cinematography wise -- it's a beautiful film in places. DC's always been a notch above Marvel on the cinematography and fight sequences. Although Thor : Ragnarock had better fight sequences and I'd say was a touch above this film in plot, cinematography, characterization and writing. There's a reason both Thor and Black Panther beat Justice League's proverbial butt at the box office -- they are better films.

That said, it does do what it is supposed to do. I just wish it picked a more interesting villain, who had more to say besides -- I'm going to destroy the world first and then rule everyone. Alrighty then. The bits that did not focus on the villain were interesting.

Overall? About C+ or B-, it's worth seeing if you like this sort of thing. If not? Skip it.
shadowkat: (clock)
Just finished watching Zack Snyder's Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice courtesy of On-Demand, was about $4.45, so cheaper than the movie theaters by about ten bucks. It's about $15 dollars in Brooklyn.

Anywho...it surprised me. Not at all what I'd expected. Probably helped that I went in with very low expectations. For one thing, I didn't feel like I was watching a video game, well maybe for about two minutes, but even then? Not so much. Felt more like watching a painting. Say what you will about Zack Snyder, but he is a great cinematographer. His visuals are quite striking, and not quite as busy as other directors. Also, it didn't give me a headache like the action sequences in Man of Steel, The Avengers Part II - Age of Ultron, and Deadpool, so kudos.

A bit lacking in the dialogue department, though. I'm not even sure there was more than maybe a half hour's worth of dialogue in what amounted to a three hour movie. Snyder is not into dialogue, much more into visuals and cinematography. Not that superhero movies strike me as dialogue heavy movies to begin with. Let's face it, people do not go to these films for the dialogue. That said, the Nolan Batman films had good dialogue, as did the Iron man films, Deadpool, and Days of Future Past. So it is possible. But I've yet to see a Zack Snyder flick with good dialogue. (The 300, The Watchman, and Man of Steel had crappy dialogue too.)

It also, felt more "archetypal" in characterization. Not really providing anything new -- although let's face it, is there really anything new that can be said about Superman and Batman? Or for that matter the super-hero genre? I mean all three have been DONE by now. Possibly overdone. I think they may be slightly crispy.

As far as the visuals went, it reminded me a great deal of Frank Miller's Dark Knight comics in the 1980s, and Alan Moore's Sin City, V for Vendetta, and The Killing Joke. Both men took over the Batman comics, along Tim Sale, back in the 1980s and 1990s, and their decisively noirish take on the comics sort of bled into the verse as a whole. I remember writing my senior thesis in the bowels of a computer room next to a guy who was writing his on the death of superhero in comics, or rather the reimaging of the hero as vigilante and what that means. It was a controversial thesis - because academics, especially in the 80s, tended to frown on graphic novels, in particular action and pulpy noir graphic novels. Which I never really understood, a story is a story is a story...after all. And who's to say my thesis on Joyce's Molly Bloom and Faulkner's Caddy Thompson (aka their Mommy issues), was any more or less valid than this guy's thesis on the post-modern hero? In some respects I think his thesis was more interesting, because it commented, if indirectly, on our need for a hero, but romanticization of the vigilante. Or America's pop culture love affair with the powerful bad-boy, much to our own detriment (see Trump, Christian Grey, Walter White, Soprano, Hannibal Lector, Spike/Angel, Iron Man, various characters on Game of Thrones and Walking Dead, etc.). Oh, should mention, the guy writing his thesis on the death of the superhero in comics - had bleach blond hair, a leather jacket, rings, black boots, and steel rimmed glasses. We had some great conversations at 1 am in that computer room. (I half wish I saw the film with that guy. And I can't help but wonder what would have happened if we had merged our theses, mother goddess/mommy issues vs. death of superman/rise of the vigilante?)

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All in all not a bad film. Not sure it's worth $15 bucks. But I enjoyed it for $5.

I'd give it a B or a solid three stars.
shadowkat: (warrior emma)
Co-workers saw Batman vs. Superman over the weekend, and the consensus appeared to be, it's not a bad film, and really doesn't have that much action. Most of the action scenes, what little there is, are at the end. They found it a bit slow actually, and their attention wandered. But overall, worth seeing in a movie theater for the cinematography, just maybe not for $16 in IMAX.

And I found this review or rather commentary interesting...mainly in what it states about critical reviews in general and specifically in regards to superhero films.


Batman V Superman is rocking a Fresh 72% with audiences at Rotten Tomatoes, and a 7.4/10 with audiences at Metacritic. It’s not that audiences are “right” and critics are “wrong” here, but it does feel like the critical consensus is a bit off the mark this time around. I think that sometimes movies become fair game, or that some sort of critical mob mentality sets in, and a perfectly decent film is piled on a little too harshly. (If I hadn’t looked ahead of time I would have guessed Batman v. Superman would have scored upper 60′s to lower 70′s on Rotten Tomatoes. No masterpiece, but a good superhero movie regardless.)


And also from Forbes...this article How Even the Worst Dawn of Justice Reviews Helped Rather Than Hurt..


One of the narratives coming out of this weekend’s blockbuster Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice opening was that it “defied the critics” or that “critics don’t matter.” Well, as always with these sorts of things, it’s a little more complicated than that. Yes, the film got a stunningly low 29% on Rotten Tomatoes, and the average score was 5/10 (which is closer to mixed-negative as opposed to outright dismissal). And yes, the film made (as of this writing) $170.1 million domestic and $424.1m worldwide despite the fact that 7.1/10 critics on that popular aggregation website disliked the picture.

You might think that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was something of a critic-proof picture, but you’re only half-right. The majority of those critics confirmed that, be it good or bad, viewers of said picture would get their money’s worth in a few key areas. It wasn’t so much that audiences ignored the critics (although some surely did), but rather that the negative reviews offered up confirmation of several core elements that were part of the film’s marketing campaign.

They confirmed that Batman and Superman do beat the heck out of each other. They confirmed that the film is full of “gotta see this in IMAX” spectacle and cinematic grandeur. They argued that Ben Affleck made a compelling Batman. They mostly were thrilled to see Wonder Woman in her late-in-the-game action cameo. The reviews were terrible to be sure, but they acknowledged that the film provided value regarding most of the core elements that a viewer might want out of the film.

Had those notices been along the lines of “The movie is boring, Batman and Superman don’t fight, visually bland and/or lit with a flashlight, Wonder Woman is lame, Affleck is a terrible Batman, and don’t take the kids,” I would argue the numbers would have been a lot lower. Okay, that last one applies, but that wasn’t a deal-breaker. If you’re a regular moviegoer already on the cusp of buying a ticket, even those poor reviews assured you that you’d, at least, get the stuff you wanted to get in a movie called Batman v Superman.


I have to agree...the reviews, if anything, have made me more curious about the film than less so.
Also, Superman and Batman have been done to death -- the only thing left to do with either is have them meet up. There really is nothing else you can say about them that hasn't been already said, ad naseum. Here's a brief list of all of the Superman/Batman movies and television series that I can remember:

Superman - I-IV (starring Christopher Reeves. Just watch I-III.)
Tim Burton's Batman films (I-II)
Joel Schumaker's Batman (skip - it is the worst Batman film ever made, actually I think it may be amongst the worst films I've seen. It bombed.)
Chris Nolan's Batman series (Batman Begins, Dark Knight, Dark Knight Rises)
Batman Beyond (cartoon series - quite good)
Superman (cartoon series)
1950s Superman films
Lois & Clark: the New Adventures of Superman
Smallville (Superman as a teen)
Gotham (Batman as a kid)
Batman - 1960s television series starring Adam West -- notable for the slogan "Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel" (if you were a kid in the 1970s, you probably saw it in reruns.)
Frank Miller's Animated Dark Knight Returns - films based on his books
Justice League (cartoon)
Superman : Doomesday - animated cartoon (Lex Luthor is voiced by James Marsters, so bonus) - this is actually really good by the way, animation wise and story-wise. Does the Death of Superman story arc justice.

There's probably more. Zombies, Vampires, Batman, and Superman seem to have been done a lot.

That said? I admittedly have a weakness for the character of Batman. He fascinates me. Wounded fictional male characters fascinate me. Not in reality, just in fiction. Also have a weakness for superhero flicks. Always have. Somewhat burned out now, though. (Gee, I wonder why. It's not like we don't have a superhero flick every two or three months, plus five or six television series focused on them, or anything.)

I'm admittedly tempted to go this coming weekend, but alas, already have plans to see the far lighter and witter, live musical revival of The Robber Bridegroom at the Roundabout Theater on Saturday. I love live theater. Plus the audiences are better behaved than movie theater audiences for some reason.
The Robber Bridegroom also got much better reviews than Batman vs. Superman, so there's that. And I think Stephan Pascale is more attractive than Henry Caville (who for some reason doesn't do anything for me, I know I'm in the minority on that point) or Ben Affleck. He plays the Robber Bridegroom and has a great singing voice.

The Robber Bridegroom is a rarely seen musical adaptation of an Eudora Welty novella of the same name...based in turn on a folk legend. It's part Tall Tale and part American Fairy Tale. Has a live blue-grass band.


The Roundabout Theater Company, in association with commercial producer Daryl Roth (“It Shoulda Been You”), will produce the 1970s musical, which bowed on Broadway in 1975. Alfred Uhry (“Driving Miss Daisy”) wrote the book and lyrics for the bluegrass-infused music by Robert Waldman.

Based on the 1942 novella by Eudora Welty, “Robber Bridegroom” centers on a Robin Hood-like bandit (Pasquale) who falls for the daughter of a rich plantation owner. The original Broadway production starred Kevin Kline and Patti LuPone in the lead roles.


The story intrigues me, as does the music. Besides my fetish for superheros, I have a fetish for musicals. Except for Opera...which irritates and bores me. The appeal of Opera, for some reason or other, remains lost on me. (I know I'm in the minority on that score as well. But there it is.)
shadowkat: (brooklyn)
I woke up early, yes on a Sunday no less and not by intent...and decided having nothing better to do, to brave the heat and humidity to go see The Dark Knight. Some people go to church on Sundays, I go to movies. ( It's not that I don't believe in God, I do, I just don't like religion all that much.)

Was The Dark Knight worth it? Oh yes, and then some. Heck the previews alone were worth the price of admission - they gave us previews of Quantum of Solace, The Watchmen and Terminator: Salvation - all of which look amazing, especially The Watchmen. Previews aside, the Dark Knight may well be the best action/superhero film that I've seen in my life. Although that may not be fair - since the other films really don't aspire to be much more than fun rollercoaster rides. This baby made Iron Man feel like a saturday morning cartoon by comparison, and I enjoyed Iron Man.

To spoil or not to spoil, therein lies the question. If you've read or are at all familar with the stories in the following three Batman graphic novels that more or less redefined the Batman comic series and persona back in the lat 1980s and early 1990s, I probably can't spoil you - you know the story, more or less. Those three graphic novels are: The Long Halloween by Tim Sale and Jeff Loeb (whom I believe Whedon may have gotten to write one of the Buffy issues), The Killing Joke by Alan Moore, and The Dark Knight by Frank Miller. Of the three this film follows the first one the closest - The Long Halloween - provides us with the dual tales of the Joker and Harvey Dent, changing Dent's origin story slightly from original. The Long Halloween may be one of the scariest and grittest noir stories told about an action hero. This film follows it - very closely. If you are not a fan of the noir superhero genre and by "noir" - I mean dark, gritty, and violent with a somewhat nihilistic/cynical look at human nature - you will not like The Dark Knight. If you are a fan of this particular genre, as I am, you will be in movie heaven. To say it is a dark and at times sadistically violent film is an understatement. This is not Superman or Fantastic Four or X-men.

This is the film I thought Tim Burton was planning to make in 1980 and was grossly disappointed. Burton's film, while fun and stylish, pales in comparison to what The Dark Knight manages to accomplish, an accomplishment that falls just a notch or two short of being a masterpiece in this genre. The fact it falls short may have a great deal more to do with the genre it is in than with anything else. Fans of Miller, Moore, and Loeb's Batmans, will however be pleased.

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