Re: Buffy Season 8 comics...I haven't read them because I pretty much never read comics, and continuing the story in that format doesn't interest me much. If spoilers indicate the story is going in a way that sounds cool, I might pick them up at some point. However, what I've read about them so far sounds uninspiring.
With the ATS comics I don’t have a problem with thinking of them as canon ie a continuation of the same story but with time I seem to have lost what interest I had in the AtS characters so I won’t be actively following them.
My impression is that more women than men write fanfic but the first fanfic I ever saw was of the Spuffy/slash variety so my definition of fanfic tends to centre on that model. I think the problem is that some types of fic that are very heavily female dominated and others aren’t, the genre doesn’t form a single distribution so I’m not sure how informative it is to take an overall mean so to speak.
I read a lot of BtVS fanfic when the show was on but only occasionally look at stories from authors I already know these days. Might start reading again to fill in time between comics but then again haven’t felt any inclination to read BSG fic while that show’s been on so maybe not.
One of these days, we're going to finish our ATS Season 6 project, and it'll be interesting to see how the Whedon/Lynch version of S6 plays out in comparison. I'm sure there'll be many times when Masq, OnM and I clunk ourselves on the heads going: "Damn! Why didn't we think of that?" There will be times when there are eerie similarities, and we'll feel a completely unwarranted pride and a gnawing suspicion that Joss has been spying on us. And there will be times when Joss makes us all look so inept that we'll regret ever typing a word. But I really wanna see what Joss has in mind!
I will absolutely read the AtS Season 6 comic if it is canon, where by "canon" I mean Joss has a hand in the story lines. That show ended too soon. Part of my difficulty with BtVS is I was fine with where it ended. More story is good, of course, I love the Buffyverse, but I struggle with the comics medium. It is mega-confusing to me.
How do you feel about Whedon's new Buffy S8 in comics? Other: I don't consider the comics to be same as TV show canon, but if Joss wants to write it, I say go ahead and let him. Don't know yet if I want to spend money to read it, that's all. But I do sympathise with those fanfic writers who feel they're getting Jossed to hell and back. It's tough to build on closed canon for 3 years, then have that yanked out from under you.
How do you feel about Whedon doing ATS comics? Am ambivalent and Other: Ambivalent because, unlike Buffy, which ended on a relatively happy, resolved note that was a great jumping off point for fanfic, Angel ended with Wes dead and the others quite soon to be dead. Yes, it's possible to write around the alley scene with some kind of Slayer or magic interference that allows the Fang Gang to live and keep fighting. But for many viewers, such interference would be a huge, clunky McGuffin. There's great power and elegance in the stark, iconic, we few, we happy few, Leonidas' 300 ending Joss gave us. The ending made sense thematically, their last day gave us character resolution, and I'm not sure continuing the story would necessarily add to the story.
Having said that, if Joss wants to write it, he's free to do so. I may or may not read it, I may or may not incorporate it into my understanding of the TV show. Like I said, I don't consider different mediums to (necessarily) be the same canon.
Would you read fanfic that does not follow the canon of the comics? Of course, the comics aren't canon - totatlly different medium: Perhaps my answer should be "I don't need fic to be canon-compliant, but it's a nice plus. Thankfully I don't consider comics to be canon, so either way you're in the clear with me."
Do you think fanfic should be allowed to be published for money? I answered only if the author is dead and the work is in the public domain, but that's not a complete answer. I don't think "allow" is really the question. Fanfic is published for money. That's what tie-in novels are, only they've got a stamp of approval from the PTB and the stuff that we write doesn't.
I didn't follow the debate that triggered this "fanfic for money" question, but if we're talking unsanctioned fanfic? No, don't try to make money. Because then we'll have lawyers up our ying-yang and we don't need that. Or if you're really determined, get signed on to write a tie-in novel and get it published. More power to you.
Finally a poll I can fully participate in (since I don't read or write fan fic I could only answer a couple of questions in your first poll)!
That is an interesting question about whether having fan fic be illegal to publish is silencing women's voices. Because I would turn the question around and ask about why women feel the need to plagiarize? Okay, that is a little harsh, but I do find so often that in art class women copy what others are doing and the men are trying new things. I guess I shouldn't generalize, but it does seem to be a pattern that so many women are willing to waste their writing talent on something that is not original to them. I would actually be curious to find out #1 if that is really true, and #2 why they do it.
How do you feel about Whedon's new Buffy S8 in comics? I haven't read them yet because it's near impossible to get them where I live. But I can't wait to get my hands on them.
Would you read fanfic that does not follow the canon of the comics?
Of course, the comics aren't canon - totatlly different medium
I picked this one because of the 'of course' but it doesn't matter to me if the comics are canon or not. I read plenty of AU fic that doesn't follow canon, so that's not really a factor.
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Date: 2007-05-01 06:01 pm (UTC)My impression is that more women than men write fanfic but the first fanfic I ever saw was of the Spuffy/slash variety so my definition of fanfic tends to centre on that model. I think the problem is that some types of fic that are very heavily female dominated and others aren’t, the genre doesn’t form a single distribution so I’m not sure how informative it is to take an overall mean so to speak.
I read a lot of BtVS fanfic when the show was on but only occasionally look at stories from authors I already know these days. Might start reading again to fill in time between comics but then again haven’t felt any inclination to read BSG fic while that show’s been on so maybe not.
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Date: 2007-05-01 06:09 pm (UTC)I am AtS's bitch, though, if Joss is at the helm.
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Date: 2007-05-01 06:58 pm (UTC)Other: I don't consider the comics to be same as TV show canon, but if Joss wants to write it, I say go ahead and let him. Don't know yet if I want to spend money to read it, that's all. But I do sympathise with those fanfic writers who feel they're getting Jossed to hell and back. It's tough to build on closed canon for 3 years, then have that yanked out from under you.
How do you feel about Whedon doing ATS comics?
Am ambivalent and Other: Ambivalent because, unlike Buffy, which ended on a relatively happy, resolved note that was a great jumping off point for fanfic, Angel ended with Wes dead and the others quite soon to be dead. Yes, it's possible to write around the alley scene with some kind of Slayer or magic interference that allows the Fang Gang to live and keep fighting. But for many viewers, such interference would be a huge, clunky McGuffin. There's great power and elegance in the stark, iconic, we few, we happy few, Leonidas' 300 ending Joss gave us. The ending made sense thematically, their last day gave us character resolution, and I'm not sure continuing the story would necessarily add to the story.
Having said that, if Joss wants to write it, he's free to do so. I may or may not read it, I may or may not incorporate it into my understanding of the TV show. Like I said, I don't consider different mediums to (necessarily) be the same canon.
Would you read fanfic that does not follow the canon of the comics?
Of course, the comics aren't canon - totatlly different medium: Perhaps my answer should be "I don't need fic to be canon-compliant, but it's a nice plus. Thankfully I don't consider comics to be canon, so either way you're in the clear with me."
Do you think fanfic should be allowed to be published for money?
I answered only if the author is dead and the work is in the public domain, but that's not a complete answer. I don't think "allow" is really the question. Fanfic is published for money. That's what tie-in novels are, only they've got a stamp of approval from the PTB and the stuff that we write doesn't.
I didn't follow the debate that triggered this "fanfic for money" question, but if we're talking unsanctioned fanfic? No, don't try to make money. Because then we'll have lawyers up our ying-yang and we don't need that. Or if you're really determined, get signed on to write a tie-in novel and get it published. More power to you.
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Date: 2007-05-01 10:22 pm (UTC)That is an interesting question about whether having fan fic be illegal to publish is silencing women's voices. Because I would turn the question around and ask about why women feel the need to plagiarize? Okay, that is a little harsh, but I do find so often that in art class women copy what others are doing and the men are trying new things. I guess I shouldn't generalize, but it does seem to be a pattern that so many women are willing to waste their writing talent on something that is not original to them. I would actually be curious to find out #1 if that is really true, and #2 why they do it.
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Date: 2007-05-02 02:57 pm (UTC)How do you feel about Whedon's new Buffy S8 in comics?
I haven't read them yet because it's near impossible to get them where I live. But I can't wait to get my hands on them.
Would you read fanfic that does not follow the canon of the comics?
Of course, the comics aren't canon - totatlly different medium
I picked this one because of the 'of course' but it doesn't matter to me if the comics are canon or not. I read plenty of AU fic that doesn't follow canon, so that's not really a factor.