So, I'm on a Face Book Group that is an extension of the "Whedon Studies Association". (Note I am not a member of the Whedon Studies Association - since I'm not an academic, but I've written a shit-load of meta on Whedon over the years. You can find it all
HERE.)
Anyhow, one of the people in the group - posted this with the following statement: "One big takeaway from the article is that the Trachtenberg rule was as a result of a verbal exchange and not anything physical, as I had been telling people (until I was warned it wasn't safe for me to discuss this online, I hope it's safe here). I'm disappointed in Trachtenberg for making it sound like it was physical as that was what brought up fan anger. We've all had dick bosses."
Then of course people on the FB page kicked the poor woman. I was annoyed enough by it to come to her defense. Fandom? You can be a judgemental holier-than-thou self-righteous asshole, sometimes, just saying.
Anyhow...here's the article :
Inside Joss Whedon's Cutting and Toxic World of Buffy and Angel( excerpts are provided below )My takeaways -
1. Whedon sounds a lot like the boss I've had for the last fourteen years, and similar to others I've had in the past. There was no sexual abuse. It was all verbal, and mainly manipulative. He played people against each other, and had his favorites. You were either in or you were out, and the actors had no input. And he was very good at managing above him. Below? He had his pets, everyone else he treated like crap. Seen that in so many workplaces, I've lost count. I see it in my current one. My current boss is just like Joss Whedon. He's a black man, not white. Attractive. And can be exceedingly kind. We call him Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
2. Most of the sources did not want to be named, and everyone else declined to comment. I see legal issues at play. It's VERY hard to prove this type of bullying. I know I've because I've been on the receiving end of it - and in those work places. This is so typical of hostile work environments. I remember being asked why I wasn't reporting it to HR, and a colleague and I had the same response - we didn't want to lose our jobs and feared retribution. And we were in a union. I told a female co-worker, who is white, and felt our boss was discriminating against us because he had issues with White Women, not to say anything - after he threw files at her - heavy files and screamed at her to clean her stuff out of one of the cubicles. Without warning. I told her - she'd be dismissed out of hand, and we couldn't prove it. More than once - she's come to me, after I was left a shaking, trembling wreck by him - about the possibility of filing a claim. But I talked to a lawyer in our group - and he strongly advised against it.
And I knew from my own research there was nothing we could do. When I tried to do something - and confronted him on it, he gave me less work and delayed my promotion.
3. For the fans out there who want to hunt through old stuff to see instances of it?
* Interviews with the cast members and writers,
* Q&A's at cons - posted on Youtube,
* fan reports from the Cons,
* commentary on DVD's, and outtakes.
* Footage of various scenes released on the internet
* Bronze Beta/Whedonesque discussions with the writers
* Things the writers said on the Angel's Soul Board
* Fans who knew cast members and crew members personally
It's out there. And not hard for you to find.
Where you won't find it : in any of the television series, films, comics.
Whedon never wrote things by himself - all of his art was collaborative. Comics, television, and film are all without exception collaborative art forms. You can't really tell a director/writer is an ass merely by watching or reading their work. Even people who create work by themselves - you can't tell.
Anymore than you can tell that your boss is abusive by the products you create or from their behavior towards you. And from your perspective? Your boss could be lovely, and you adore them, but your coworkers may be going home each night in tears - and you are oblivious. Are you enabling it? I don't know. I've asked myself that question so many times. I don't think so. It's not Alyson Hannigan's or Amy Acker's fault that Whedon loved her and treated others abysmally. Any more than it is Chidi's fault that our boss loves him. Like I said above, I have a boss now, who some people love to pieces, and others despise. He's like two different people. My father called him Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
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How can you stop this behavior in the work place? Well, you don't do it by deciding that you hate Buffy/Angel and all things Whedon now, and boycott it and bully anyone who loves it into submission - that's kind of counter-productive and it doesn't help any of us who have survived toxic work environments or are still surviving them. (Actually Buffy got me through a toxic work environment. The Buffy fandom helped me survive it - ironic, but true.)
First, open your eyes to it. See it for what it is and try to stand up to it. Which is really hard. But if you aren't the target and the boss likes you - than it is imperative that you be the one to try to do something about it. What would have happened if someone had done that with Whedon? If one of his friends pulled him aside and said, you know, Joss, you are a great guy, but this is inappropriate - and you are hurting this person - could we maybe not do that?
It is why we have unions and it is important to support unions - as frustrating as they can be, they do protect people from evil bosses.
( Read more... )It's also important to understand that it goes across industries. And is not relegated to just one.
I had a boss who told me once that I was didn't stroke his ego enough and make him feel good about himself. This was in 2001, shortly after 9/11, about two months later.
( my personal story of a toxic work environment in the library reference publishing industry )I tell you this story to try to get across how prevalent this is. Joss Whedon, unfortunately, is not the exception, he's the rule. And he was created by the toxic society he lives in. A society, that like it or not, we are all responsible for creating and contributing to.
The job he had prior to show-running Buffy was Roseanne, which was considered at that time openly toxic. Roseanne fired writers every week. And it's not just show business. It is every single work environment in our world. It's every government. Every ruling body.
I am learning to hate the behavior not the people. The best thing about stories - is they show us how to do that and why. It's so easy to hate the people - requires less work. Hating the behavior requires more work, I think. It requires us to see past the behavior to the person inside. Most people are like Whedon and current Boss - they are in a way Dr. Jekyll's and Mr Hyde's. Capable of wonderful things and horrible ones, often at the same time.
Finally...
A partial defense of Joss Whedon and Harmful CreatorsI have issues with social media - because it weaponizes things. But with no real proof. And a lot of vagueness. When requested for more clarity or information - they refuse to provide it.
People on Whedonesque call it blaming the victim, but I don't see any of these people as victims. They are all wealthy, they are not sick with COVID, they are not in the hospital, and they are employed.
And what happened - happened twenty years ago. They didn't report it.
Until now - when it helped Ray Fisher.
So, do I believe there was a toxic work environment? Yes. But, I don't think how they handled it is any better. We need to stop using social media to destroy people. And, he makes some good points.